What’s next for Flickr video?
Last week I got a chance to chat with some of the folks who run Flickr. Mainly I wanted to catch up on the video hosting service the company launched less than one month ago. So far it has proven to be a success, despite a small uprising from a portion of its diehard users that was later quelled with Yahoo-subsidized doughnuts. Flickr wouldn’t share the exact number of videos that have been added, but the site is teeming with them. A casual advanced search for videos with a space in the title yields over 124,000 clips, but the true number is likely to be significantly larger.
Flickr’s splash into the video hosting scene last month was slightly overshadowed by two hurdles users had to jump over to get their clips online. The first was the necessity of the $25 a year pro membership, something that’s still required. The other was in time, with videos capped at 90 seconds–roughly half the length of the average Internet video clip according to research done by Comscore back in January.
The company says it’s happy with the controversial 90-second limit. Of all the uploads Flickr’s senior product manager Shanan Delp says 92 percent were well within the cap, meaning the other 8 percent came from users who attempted to upload videos that were too large. Additional time will almost certainly be tacked on at a later date, but for now the company plans to keep the limit throughout the beta testing period, as well the video uploading privileges to just pro users. Part of the reason for the cap has been for scaling purposes. Flickr has over 20 million users. While an unknown percentage of those are pro members, even small videos can use up more bandwidth and storage than an entire roll of photos.
So what are users doing with videos? Delp says there are two distinct trends–one of users grouping together their clips into video-only groups, and others that are mixing both forms of media into shared pools. Some groups are even banning videos from being added at all. According to Delp, one of the more interesting groups to come from this has been stop motion video–a feature found on new model mid-to high end digital cameras. The company also created its own video meme with “fridgets”, or short clips of people opening up their refrigerators and looking for something to eat while filming the activity on their digital cameras. The group pool for that currently has over 50 clips.
One of the stranger video trends to hit Flickr is 'fridgets', which are videos of people opening up their refrigerators and filming the often mundane experience.
(Credit: CNET Networks)
One notable feature to come with the addition of video was that the company made it immediately available for use in Flickr’s standard data API. So far there have been few services to take advantage of this, including Yahoo’s own video editing tool Jumpcut. Kakul Srivastava, Flickr’s general manager says there’s still work to be done with the Jumpcut team before Flickr video gets tie-ins, but that they’re on track to deliver something that’s seamless for users of both services.
In the meantime, one of the cooler creations to take advantage of Flickr’s video API is a video browser put together by Matt Crampton. It takes a smattering of some of the latest videos and puts them together on a giant array that users can watch without having to venture on Flickr.
Tags could be the next thing to get a tweak for videos, a format that lends itself to timed tags.
So what’s next for videos on Flickr? Soon users will be able to edit the thumbnail others see on their videos–something that’s currently decided for them. User will also be able to make time adjustments to pick the start or end of a video, re-upload clips, and rotate videos that had been shot sideways or upside down.
Re-uploading will be a necessity for users who want to go in to make an edit or make adjustments while preserving users comments, tags, and usage statistics. The company is also in talks with camera vendors regarding video metadata to be able to do more analysis and charting of video usage on the site as what’s been seen in the camera finder charts.
In the near future I’m expecting a big change in the way users are able to add tags to video clips, something that’s identical to the tagging system used for still images. Back before Flickr had launched video I had asked Srivastava about using a system like Viddler’s to add tags per single frame or entire sections of frame. While she wouldn’t divulge if they had a working version of it in development, she said that it’s something “we’d love to explore.”
More recently Flickr has started to make videos a larger part of the site and the built-in discovery tools. Over the weekend, videos began making their way into the explore section of the site. Previously they had been separate entities, but the team has since tweaked the “interestingness” algorithm to include video clips too.
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What’s next for Flickr video?
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